My blog is intended to be a record of settling into and living in Thailand and doesn’t really set itself up to be an authority on things like the Thai visa system. The problem is that the rules keep changing and the best way to find out what’s happening is to do research on one of the big expat forums that have lots of people reporting back on their experiences of dealing with Thai bureaucracy and exchanging advice – refer to links at the end of this post.

The only time I have added posts on these more specialised subjects is where I have gone through the process myself and feel that I have some authority to share my own experience with readers. Therefore my blog is weighted towards the O-A Retirement Visa, which is the visa I have to reside in Thailand. Other types of visas aren’t covered here.

The Visa that changed my life.

The Visa that changed my life.

These posts are at a particular point in time and the only way they are updated is when readers make comments, which turns the post into a mini-forum.

My original post on the retirement visa and the largely unknown automatic 12 month free extension was covered HERE, and has proved one of the more visited stories on my site. There have been a number of updating comments made since I published it back in August 2014 and I thought it would be worth organising these into a more readable post, extracting those points that may be useful for readers looking for answers to the often confusing visa topic.

I will make this post an active one and add to it as new or changed information comes to my attention. For example I received an email today advising me that the Chiang Mai immigration office has moved from its previous location which was close to the airport and is now in the Promenada Mall – see map below. A great idea as there must be somewhere in the mall you can get a strong drink after surviving/not surviving the Thai bureaucratic experience.

The new immigration office in Chiang Mai.

The new immigration office in Chiang Mai.

A useful ThaiVisa forum topic on the new office can be found HERE. ThaiVisa is a great resource but you will need to wade through neverending whining from expats who would be far better off being a pain back in their own country rather than cluttering up our lives and forums 🙂

At the end of this post I will add a list of links to other very useful forums or sites that might be helpful. If you as a reader come across others would you please let me and other readers know via the comment section.

Below you will find an extract of all the comments, replies and information added to my other post that have some relevance to the retirement visa topic. Many thanks to everyone who contributed with not one whinge registered! I have edited the original comments to remove aspects that didn’t support this topic. The original comments can still be seen on my post HERE. There is an Australian bias here as many of my readers are from my home country. However the information provided is general enough to be useful to all comers.

Update 8 August 2016:

A reader has reported that he was able to use rental income as the basis for the annual income requirements for a retirement visa. I have extracted the advice from the comments section:

David’s original question: “I was reading somewhere that a rental agreement for a property in Australia that showed an equivalent or greater rent of 65,000 baht a month would be accepted as evidence of income by the Thais. Has anyone tried this for the initial application for a retirement visa from a Thai Consulate in Australia?”

And his subsequent answer: “I can report that the rental property route was successful (at least for me)

* I supplied a JP-certified copy of the two pages of the lease with the tenant’s name & signature, my name & signature, the property address and the monthly rent
* In my certified three-month bank statement there were three deposits a month apart referencing the tenant and the property. Each month’s deposit exceeded the equivalent of 65K baht

Bingo!”

Update 18 November 2015:

A reader of the blog has just completed a Laos border run to extend his permission to stay in Thailand by 12 months based on an OA Retirement Visa. You can find his comprehensive description of the process HERE.

Update 20 October, 2015:

Some great new information on visa renewals (Australian biased) and other information in the comments section of this post contributed by Michaela and Jay late October.

As always double check anything you read here with other forums to make sure it is still relevant and correct. I would hate for you to take some action based on the wrong information.


QUESTION: Maz  on November 5, 2014

This article is so clear and easy to understand, thank you so much! I have 1 question as well if you do not mind me asking. You mentioned as you came back to Australia and then again to Thailand you got an automatic 12 months at re-entry. How many times can this be done on an O A. I have heard a maximum of 3 times; do you know anything about this?

REPLY 1: Tony in Thailand on November 7, 2014

Hi Maz. Many thanks for your comment. I’m afraid that I can’t answer your question with any authority. I am not an expert on visas and my blog only shares the direct experiences I have had. My situation had me leaving and returning to Thailand on one occasion only within the original 12 months of the OA visa. I don’t know that if I did it again within the original OA period whether another extension would have been available on my return with a new 12 month start date. I do know that when I left the country again, this time within the “extended” visa period i.e. the next 12 months that I had to apply for a re-entry permit before leaving the country as the extension is not for multiple use.

I would hate to point you in the wrong direction on such an important subject. I only came across the OA visa “loophole” through this website http://retirecheap.asia, which is full of good information although some of it is reserved for members. Maybe there is an answer there. Sorry I can’t be of more help. Thanks again. Tony

REPLY 2: Clay on November 15, 2014

Maz- I believe it to be you can come and go as many times in the first year as you want, each time on re-entry getting a 12 month period added. Same in the 2nd year if you get a multi-entry permit BEFORE you leave the Kingdom.

Tony-I will also be getting the O-A in the US when the time comes as the criminal check and medical clearance won’t be hard to get. The money end is easier and when 2 years are up I will just go to the US and do it again!

QUESTION: Jenny on January 3, 2015

Dear Tony, thanks for the info. I am coming to Thailand in March with a view to retirement. I was advised to just get a non-immigrant 0 single entry for 3 months and then see Thai Assist to get the retirement visa done, but from what you say I should just get the 12 month OA multiple entry here in Brisbane with proof of savings, Centrelink letter etc.

I now don’t think I will need the visa company at all as I will be returning to Australia at least once (or twice) a year to visit and each time my visa will be extended another year. All I will have to do then is report my address every 90 days. Is this correct?

An expat in Chiang Mai told me he used Thai Assist to get his retirement visa and they also do the reporting for him, he just drops in his passport. I don’t know what they charged for the visa but they charge a fee also for the reporting. But I think I can do all this on my own.

REPLY: Tony in Thailand on January 3, 2015

Hi Jenny. It sounds as if you have an exciting 2015 planned with a new life in Chiang Mai.

I am not a visa expert having just done what I needed to do to stay here and only coming across the ability to extend the AO Visa beyond the initial 12 months by luck. You are far better off getting the full OA Visa in Australia in my opinion, which gives you that ability to exit and re-enter Thailand with an automatic extension up to the expiry date as described on my blog. It involves a little bit more paperwork initially but is absolutely worth it.

I have never used a visa company to process anything over here and don’t see the need to do so unless you have a problem with filling out forms. The 90 day report is a little bit of a pain in the same way as dealing with bureaucracy anywhere in the world but it’s not difficult. Complete the government form, which you can download online, copy the relevant pages in your passport and copy your lease and you’re ready to go.

Chiang Mai immigration is woefully under resourced but the system works and the staff cope in a stressed work environment that would be closed down in Australia. Submit the correct forms and you will end up with the extension at the end of the process. I was always lucky and never had to wait more than 30 minutes. My record was 5 minutes. Remember the staff all go to lunch from 12.00 – 1.00 pm and early morning isn’t recommended. I found around 11.00 am worked well but it’s a lottery. Take a book! There’s no charge for the 90 day report.

REPLY 2: Tony in Thailand on January 3, 2015

Jenny. I meant to say please check with the Thai embassy if anything has changed with the AO Visa and the extension option. The military have tightened up on visas since the coup but as far as I know it only related to people using the tourist visa to stay in Thailand on a semi-permanent basis. I don’t think the retirement visa has been affected. Tony

FOLLOW ON 1: Jenny on January 4, 2015

Hi Tony, Bob

Thanks for the replies to my comments.

Just a couple of points, I rang the Thai Consulate here in Brisbane and they told me all I needed to attach with my application for a Non-Immigrant 12 month multi trip was a bank statement, Centrelink letter and airline tkt copy – no mention at all of medical or criminal check (the visa price listed on the Canberra site with all the complex instructions is the same). I think I will have to ring them back and make sure. (Maybe things have changed Bob?)

Another thing – with the 12 month extension on leaving the country, how many times can I do that? I do plan on coming back to Aust every year for a visit and will remain an Australian resident for tax purposes.

The postal 3 month reporting sounds good, does anyone have their postal address or is it just the street address? I will make sure I copy forms off before I leave here, and have the right envelopes.

REPLY: Tony in Thailand on January 4, 2015

As far as I know, and this is supported by Jay, you can leave and return as often as you like during the initial AO 12 month period and the visa end date will be extended. Once you are in your “extended” period no further time is added if you leave the country. Remember it is not a multiple entry visa at this point so you will have to get a once only or multiple re-entry permit depending on the number of times you plan to be out of the country during the extension period. I cover this in the Visa section of the blog.

Tony

FOLLOW ON 2: Jenny on January 5, 2015

Hi Tony

I think I have been getting confused with the O and O-A. I think I understand it now, the O multi entry 12 month is only valid for 90 day stay and you only get a 90 day stamp each time you leave within the 12 months during the visa validity – you must leave each 90 days.

The O-A 12 month multi entry gets stamped for a further 12 months each time within that first 12 months, and you have to do 90 day reporting (not leaving). Then when I do have to extend the OA, I have to get a re-entry permit each time I leave. Is all the above right?

So I suppose the thing is, get the O-A and stay as long as possible before leaving so as to get the extra 12 months, after that it’s over and you need to apply to extend each year?. The thing is I have only stayed in Chiang Mai for 10 days before and I was going to make the final decision about 4-6 weeks in after I get there mid-March and either way return here in mid-June (bring back more stuff if staying).

In any case I am going to apply for the O-A from here. I have sent off for my criminal check and will be having a medical later this week – then I will apply direct to Canberra not the Consulate here in Brisbane. I will ring Canberra to make sure nothing has changed today.

I hope all the above is not as confusing to you as it is to me! I think I am on the right track, if not, please tell me..

FOLLOW ON 3: Jenny on January 6, 2015

Hi Bob

Thanks for all your good advice. I am pretty right as far as my pension goes and fulfil all the necessary criteria for moving overseas.

On another note, I checked with the Embassy in Canberra and I have to supply all the paperwork as per instructions on their website and nothing has changed. I have applied for my criminal check and am having a medical in the next week or so. After I get everything back I will apply for the OA.

Jenny

FOLLOW ON 4: Bob on January 3, 2015

Hi Jenny,

I have recently moved to Chiang Mai (retired) and Tony is right. Following Tony’s advice in the past (and others) it seemed to me that there were a lot of things that could go wrong in Thailand if I was unlucky – and especially in Chiang Mai given the Aust Embassy is in Bangkok. Having been here in Chiang Mai for a month I can say that it was definitely the right decision – clearly things can and do go wrong in the Thai bureaucracy. I think that is the best option for you to get the retirement Visa in Australia the first time – the 90 day extensions and even the annual renewal should be OK while here – but I agree that you should get it in Australia the first time.

A couple of pieces of advice from my experience:

You can lodge the Retirement Visa via mail (registered recommended) to the Canberra Embassy – the processes are all detailed here:

http://canberra.thaiembassy.org/visa.html

Click on the “Long Stay Visa for retirement” link and download the .pdf file. A couple of points to note:

You will need to see a Doctor – before mine would sign the statutory declaration that I didn’t have TB, Syphillis, Leprosy, etc. I had to have an XRay and get blood tests (legal issue I guess).

You need to get a certificate from AFP that you do not have a criminal record – you can go to this site and apply on line:

http://www.afp.gov.au/en/what-we-do/police-checks/national-police-checks.aspx

https://afpnationalpolicechecks.converga.com.au/

It says on the website that AFP only do it for ACT residents, but for Visa checks they do it for anyone (I live in NSW).

Online application – the purpose type is ‘Commonwealth Employment/Reason” – the purpose check is: “35 Overseas employment/visa etc.”

I will take a few weeks (as will the blood tests).

You will also need to get a bank statement printed out by the branch of your bank (suggest not a credit union) with more than the required amount in an account in your name and the document must be signed by an officer of the bank.

You do not need to get the documents notorised as it says (very expensive), but you must get them all witnessed by a JP – I found that the local council had several available JPs who are available and experienced in doing this once you have all the documents organised and prepared (take your ID with you).

You must submit the originals and your passport, and dont forget to make the number of copies they request (and keep one for yourself) – and both the originals and the copies must be witnessed by the JP.

If you are not sure what documents to also supply, then supply it and make the copies and get them all witnessed.

I have relos in Canberra so I went and lodged the application by hand at the Thai embassy – it took 3 days and passport returned with the retirement Visa inserted. If you can do the same then I suggest you do that (the mail can go astray).

FOLLOW ON 5: Jenny on January 4, 2015

Hi Bob

I just read your email again and you must have applied for your retirement visa in Canberra very recently.

I will recheck with the Thai Consulate in both Brisbane and Canberra and make sure of the requirements. I was going to have a general medical anyway before leaving here and the police check is not a problem – but if I don’t really need to supply all that extra paperwork then I won’t.

NOTE: update 6 Sept 2015 I have been informed by a reader that the Brisbane Consulate has been recently closed.

INFORMATION: Jay on January 3, 2015

Hi Tony,

Your 90 day reporting record from 5-30 minutes would be the envy of most who wait a lot longer than that.

I did my first one in December and my time there was 2 hours 18 minutes.

My next report will be by post. This method is also encouraged by immigration. I’ve spoken to a few people who do it this way, as well as opening a topic with Thai Visa. Members who have used this method seem to support it. See link below.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/783666-chiang-mai-90-day-by-post/

Regards

Jay.

REPLY: Tony in Thailand on January 3, 2015

Bob and Jay. Thanks very much for your contributions to this topic. Jay, when I was in Chiang Mai the postal 90 day reporting wasn’t an option although i know it was in the past. Maybe this has changed as a result of the post-coup shake up. A much better option than waiting around. I did my first report in Udon Thani last month and I think I beat my previous record of 5 minutes. The guy didn’t even look at the paperwork. Just gave me the extension. One happy farang! Cheers. Tony

 QUESTION: Eric Arnow on January 25, 2015

I am confused. There are 12 months in a year and my income is about $2300 US which is about 70,000 baht. 800,000 baht in a thai bank is the same as 65,000 baht needed per month. Why did you calculate based on 10 months?

ANSWER: Tony in Thailand on January 25, 2015

Eric. Thank you for pointing this out and you are quite right. It is 65,000 THB a month income or a deposit of 800,000 THB. I have amended the post and taken out the conversion to Aussie dollars, which isn’t relevant to many of my readers these days. Also the exchange rate is woeful with the baht being so strong against most other currencies, that it is totally out of date. I appreciate you getting in contact. Cheers Tony

INFORMATION: Robert Lowe on February 8, 2015

Tony – A delightfully precise and most literate account with none of the weasel words that too often invade most issues these days. Thank you ever so much for all your good and much needed work.

My hunch is the automatic 365 ‘extension’ of O-A Retirement Visas with “M” Stamps obtained outside Thailand, presumably only in one’s home country, is a test program that’s been running 2 going on 3 years. My hunch is that this test is being kept low key as officials measure the results and ‘learn’ what to expect. Ergo, not many folks [even at Chiang Mai Immigration] are qualified to really discuss the program in detail.

I attended a Chiang Mai Expat meeting at the Meridian on 22 October 2014, with presentations by Regional and Chiang Mai Immigration officials, made to roughly 160 expats, and no mention was made of this new feature/benefit. Not by any of the speakers from Thai Immigration, nor by anyone in the audience. However, Chiang Mai officials did embellish the through-put overload issues their offices are suffering, as well as their desire to develop innovative solutions. Thai Immigration knows it has efficiency issues, and knows solutions are much needed. It’s not a profit-making enterprise, and so taking risks is not rewarded. Hence, I assume the reason for the very low key approach to the new automatic extension feature. I suspect that even basic features have morphed a bit as the testing has evolved, alongside their internal procedures.

As someone has pointed out, the automatic one year ‘extension’ of the underlying O-A Retirement Visa [which grants the holder ‘Permission to Enter’country] with each re-entry into Thailand, essentially piggy-backs the ‘Permission to Stay” stamping process upon each re-entry. Hopefully this new efficiency feature will eventually run unchanged and in perpetuity. And hopefully that process will be applied to O-A Retirement Visas obtained inside Thailand, as well as 3rd party countries like Laos, Myanmar, and Cambodia.

I’ve not yet found any expats with this delightful new innovation who do not have O-A Retirement Visas awarded initially in their home country. Folks who entered on ‘Tourist Visas’ or ‘O Visas’and then reapplied for O-A Retirement Visas here in Thailand do not seem to have any automatic extension benefits. Not do expats who were granted their O-A Retirement Visas in their home countries many years back. My wife and I were granted our O-A Retirement Visas with a “S” Single Entry Stamp back in 2007, and we have had to physically re-apply for extending those visas each and every year at Chiang Mai Immigration, alongside new Proof of Income and payment of application fees. If the new automatic extension program works out, I suspect Thai Immigration will develop a process for migrating existing older O-A Retirement Visas to the automatic extension feature.

As it stands, it looks like the only way that we holders of much older O-A Retirement Visas can avail ourselves of the new automatic extension feature is to trek back to our home country and apply for a whole new visa. Although, we do know of one instance 3 years back where an American expat obtained an O-A Retirement Visa through the Thai Embassy in Vientiane Laos. We wonder if this is now standard practice?

If you have any additional information or perspective to add, we’d love to hear from you.

Thanks loads once again, and bless you for all the good and delightful work you have volunteered to us expats and potential expats all around the world…

Bob and Cindy

INFORMATION: Robert Lowe on February 9, 2015

I found my extensive notes from the 22 October 2014 Immigration presentation at the Meridien Hotel and in retrospect noticed several important points. I realize this is all hearsay with all the limitations inherent to hearsay, but the comments at that formal presentation serve at least to paint a broader narrative that may be useful in understanding how the O-A Retirement Visa process works, at least in Chiang Mai.

A Regional Immigration officer in casual attire explained that total immigration volume in Chiang Mai has been doubling every 2 years. A few steps have already been implemented to alleviate through-put issues, as e.g., separating the processing of non-employment visa holders from processing for employment visa holders. A new building is planned but that will require at least another 2 years to complete. As well, it may one day be possible to process 90 Day Police Reports electronically with something in the nature of an electronic banking card at convenience stores like 7-Eleven. Immigration realizes the queue in Chiang Mai is a major issue, and has established a ‘Committee on the Queue’ which hopes to stabilize the queue situation by 2014 year-end.

A uniformed Chiang Mai Immigration official explained that new regulations took effect on 30 June 2014. A Police Colonel indicated that new Regulations 327/2557 were implemented 29 August 2014, with the primary objective of weeding out “bad people” from entering the Kingdom.

A uniformed high-ranking female official from Chiang Mai Immigration told the audience that while the O-A Retirement Visa currently has a 365 day term, Immigration is working on plans to extend that term to 2, 3, or even 5 years in the future. Those comments lend some credence to the narrative that the new automatic extension feature of some O-A Retirement Visas issued during the prior 2-3 years is in an experimental and/or testing phase, which may explain some of the confusion among expats and Immigration officials about the precise way that feature functions. This may explain, for example, the seeming ongoing ambiguity of precisely how many times these O-A Retirement Visas can automatically extend, both during the initial one year period and subsequently. In other words, the final parameters of those features may still be in the somewhat nebulous experimental/testing work-in-process queue.

According to this official, a Tourist Visa is currently ‘convertible’ to an O-A Retirement Visa with proper application and payment of a Baht 2,000 fee. She itemized all that is required to process an O-A Retirement Visa application, but did not mention an automatic extension feature, nor did any attendee in the audience ask any questions about the new automatic extension feature. Again, lending some credence to the proposition this feature is part of a new program in an experimental and/or testing phase. This official told the audience that all original overseas paperwork used to initially apply for an O-A Retirement Visa should be brought to the first ‘renewal’ session so that Chiang Mai Immigration can take a copy.

During a slide presentation at the end of the presentation, we learned that O-A Retirement Visa volume is roughly twice that of Tourist Visa volume and that 90 Day Police Report volume is about the same as O-A Retirement Visa volume, as is Re-Entry Permit volume.

If anyone has any additional observations that provide additional clarity in what is obviously a dynamic O-A Retirement Visa process, my wife and I, alongside all O-A Retirement Visa holders, would be most appreciative receiving your thoughts.

Thanks,

Bob and Cindy

REPLY: Tony in Thailand on February 9, 2015

Bob and Cindy. It is me who should be thanking you for a wonderful contribution to this section of the blog. Some of the issues being addressed, whether short or longer term, will be most welcome. Of course the possibility of an extended retirement visa is the most exciting tease. I do think we serious farang residents bring with us many economic benefits to the country and should be “recognised” with a less onerous visa system. My own house build in a small Isaan village will end up putting well over 2 million into mostly the local economy, money that wouldn’t be in circulation otherwise.

I do hope you continue to keep me in mind with any updates you feel are appropriate to share. The blog is expanding its readership all the time and has gone from an electronic diary for family and friends into quite a broadly read site. Your contributions will be widely read.

Many thanks again.

FOLLOW ON: Robert Lowe on February 24, 2015

Tony, thanks for your kind words.

FYI and for the information of all other interested expats, the Chiang Mai Expat Club has just now posted online the complete video of the 22 October 2014 Thai Immigration presentation at the Chiang Mai Meridien Hotel – that I referenced above:

http://www.chiangmaiexpatsclub.com/immigration-2014/

REPLY: Tony in Thailand on February 24, 2015

Thank you for that. A great resource added to the blog. Much appreciated.

QUESTION: Robert Lowe on March 4, 2015

Hi Tony,

My wife and I are really loving your ongoing adventures building that gorgeous house in Issan. We really look forward to you weekly updates and appreciate your eye for detail, alongside all the tender loving care you and Gaun are investing in your new place. We noticed this comment in the latest update, the Week 17 update:

“The Week 18 update will be one to look out for if you want more information as to DeKu’s product, as we are flying to Bangkok on Tuesday with three main tasks on our list. I have to renew my Retirement Visa by 25 March, and that requires me to get a statutory declaration from the Australian embassy verifying that my income exceeds 800,000 THB per annum. You can read about the Retirement Visa in huge detail HERE.”

We are curious as to why you have to ‘renew’ your ‘O-A Retirement Visa as versus simply availing yourself of its delightful built-in ‘automatic extension’ feature, which you have already triggered once by exiting Thailand either by land or air and then returning.

Are you having to obtain a statutory declaration of your income from the Aussie Embassy in order to ‘renew’ your ‘O-A Retirement Visa’ on 25 March because you will not be able to ‘exit/re-enter Thailand’ prior to 25 March – with a ‘Re-Entry Permit Stamp’ purchased from Thai Immigration prior to departure – in order to trigger the ‘automatic extension’ of your O-A Visa for another 365 days via another ‘permission to stay’ ‘Re-Entry Stamp,’ stamped in either your passport or on your ‘Departure/Arrival Card’ upon your return to Thailand?

Or are you having to ‘renew’ your O-A Retirement Visa on 25 March because you have discovered some limitation or another at Thai Immigration that controls that otherwise delightful feature/process, as e.g., some limitation on the number of ‘Re-Entry Stamp’ ‘automatic extensions’ allowed by Thai Immigration?

Thanking you in advance for any additional information, and we wish you the best of luck with Deku. The next time you and your lovely wife Gaun are in Chiang Mai with a little spare time, please let us know a little in advance – and we’ll try to arrange to get together, either for a beer, coffee, or a meal, your choice but our treat.

Thank you,

Bob and Cindy

REPLY: Tony in Thailand on March 4, 2015

Thank you so much for your comments Bob. I am very happy with the house and can’t wait to furnish it and start enjoying it for real.

My understanding on the visa question is that you only get automatic 12 month renewal opportunities during the initial 12 months period. I left Thailand to visit Hong Kong during my extension period and the re-entry stamp duplicated the previous expiry date i.e. no further extension.

I am now going through the visa renewal process requiring a verification of income in my case rather than money in the bank as my 800,000 THB is now mostly in AAC blocks!

If you have any update to share on the renewal process please let me know.

We will certainly be visiting Chiang Mai again once the house is finished and would really enjoy meeting you both. It’s a definite date.

Cheers Tony and Gaun

FOLLOW UP: Robert Lowe on March 4, 2015

Thanks Tony,

Cindy and I, alongside our friends and neighbors here in Chiang Mai, really appreciate your boots on the ground experience.

Your thoughts tie together with all the info we’ve collected from different people here. In fact, your experience provides the missing common denominator that rationalizes all the other feedback we’ve received from various expats. To wit: The new O-A Retirement Visa with a (M)ultiple Entry stamp that can only be obtained in one’s home country enables at most up to two (2) years without having to go through the cumbersome ‘renewal process’ with Thai Immigration.

Let’s hope Thai Immigration extends the concept out to 3, 4, 5 years as they spoke of doing at the Chiang Mai La Meridien Expat Club meeting last 22 October 2014.

BTW, here’s a hotlink to videos of that entire meeting:http://www.chiangmaiexpatsclub.com/immigration-2014/

Thank you Tony and Guan –

May you two have much Joy and Happiness as the result of your up-coming Official Marriage!

Bob and Cindy

QUESTION: Derek on May 11, 2015

Tony or anyone The 800000 THB held in Thai bank account What happens to this money if account holder should die . Thanks

REPLY: Tony in Thailand on May 11, 2015

Hi Derek. Once you get your visa you can whatever you want with the 800,000 THB until next time. It isn’t locked away.

If you die the money in your Thai bank account/s is treated as an asset under the terms of your will in the same way as any other bank account/asset. Just make sure your executor knows that you have money in Thailand.

If you need to make a Thai will talk to Sebastian at Isaan Lawyers. You’ll find them in the recommendations in “information” tab of my blog HERE.

I hope this helps.

QUESTION: Kevin on September 2, 2015

Hi Tony,

Great website with lots of valuable info for newbies.

I have a Type O Non Immigrant 12 month multiple entry visa. I have made 2 trips back to Brissy, but both times on re- entry, there was only a 3 month valid stay stay. Not 12 months, as you state. Unless that happens right at the end?

Also, i am planning to apply for my Retirement visa here in CM. Do you know how long the Embassy Stat Dec for Income proof is valid? Is it 30 days, 3 months or 12 months?

I was under the impression the Brisbane consular office shut down last year.

And as a tip, I got a Travel Money Card. CBA. I can transfer funds into it from my Savings Acc. Then withdraw here in CM at any bank, getting the TT rate. Higher than the cash rate.

Thanks again. Kev

REPLY: Tony in Thailand on September 3, 2015

Cheers Kevin. Your comment is much appreciated.

Thanks also for your contribution to the Visa information section. My blog is mostly geared to record my living in Thailand rather than being a definitive information resource so it is only through people like yourself making comments that this area is kept semi-relevant. It is hard to keep up to date with things like visa changes unless you in the business. I presume your visa was obtained outside of Thailand? Did you get an additional 3 months extension to the expiry date each time you returned, in other words you ended with a six month extension?

I think I have read that the income stat dec is good for 30 days but I wouldn’t bank on my recall. I suggest you check out thaivisa.com, which is far more lively and relevant on topics like this. It is a good resource if you can ignore the endless whinging that seems to break the flow of every post. If you wouldn’t mind reporting back on any outcome I would be grateful as that might help others.

Thanks again Kevin.

Thanks for the tip about Travel Card too. I used it when holidaying in Thailand but haven’t since I retired here. I will investigate further.

REPLY: Kindly provided by Jenny who has now become an expert in the Thai visa field 🙂

This person states that he got a type O visa – I got O-A which is quite different and must be obtained from Canberra not a consular office.  When I went home in June and came back in July I got 12 months on that til July 2016.  And every time I leave until my initial visa date stamp I will get 12 months.. (I have double checked this.)  He states he is going to apply for the retirement visa which is the O-A but this is now only available in Bangkok from what I have heard.  For attachment with that visa I also had to obtain a statement from Centrelink as to my annual pension benefit and also supplied a bank statement of what I had in the bank.. medical certificate, and Federal Police check..   He did not get the same visa I did, hence his problem..  He got the wrong one…
My initial date of visa entry in my passport was January 27  2015 and I am going to Cambodia before then and re-entering before the 27th and will get another 12 months til January 2017. From this time I will need to have a re-entry visa to come back into the country.  My extension visa application will be due in January 2017.
I think a lot of people get confused about these visas – you know how long it took me to get it right!Smile with tongue out  But it has to be from Canberra and it has to be O-A multiple entry 12 months, not just O, with all the extra info supplied and witnessed by JP.
I have met so many people who don’t have the O-A, and would you believe have been doing border runs for years… the mind boggles that people don’t investigate absolutely everything to make sure… I did it, and with your help, got it right first go.   Thanks for that Tony.
Hope the above helps you to answer this man’s questions.

INFORMATION: Arie on September 4, 2015

90 day reporting can now be done over the internet.

Go to thai immigration website.

REPLY: Tony in Thailand on September 4, 2015

Thanks Arie. I knew about that but was going to wait until I completed my 90 day report later this month so that I could update the blog with a real experience. I appreciate you contributing to the blog. Keep ’em coming. Cheers. Tony

INFORMATION: Robert Lowe on September 5, 2015

It is true that Thai Immigration has an online facility for filing 90 Day Police Reports, up and running since April 2015. However, over the prior month, I have yet to access the site without first being warned that the site’s ‘certificate’ is out of date – an invitation to hackers, in other words, to steal any private information included in your application. This may not happen often, and it may not happen to you, but when it does, the price is a real killer.

As a result, until such time as Thai Immigration gets its online facility and ‘certificate’ up to speed, the only safe and viable option other than wasting a day visiting/waiting around Thai Immigration is to file the 90 Day Police Report by ‘registered mail.’ No, your passport is not included in the mailing, just photocopies of certain pages in your passport.

The primary issue here is determining the ‘official’ registered mail mailing address to send the package to. It is not included on any official Internet site I’ve found.

However, I’ve cross-verified the Chiang Mai address 3 ways, including a phone call [053277510] to Chiang Mai Immigration at Promenada, and feel fairly confident this is the correct address, which I’ll be verifying with my own 90 Day Police Report ‘registered mail’ attempt in another 7 days:

Chiang Mai Immigration Office

71 Moo 3

Tambon Suthep

Amphoe Mueang

Chiang Mai

50200

I hope this helps…


clickOTHER LINKS

  1. The Pattaya Expats Club have a very clear PDF printout on visas HERE
  2. The Chiang Mai Christian Community Classifieds have a good section on the 90 day reporting requirement including the new online option HERE. There is a range of actual classifieds and other useful information in this publication so it is worth a look if you are in the CM area. The link to their weekly publication can be found HERE. Thank you Jenny for this.
  3. ThaiVisa is always a great resource if flawed by the quality of some of the contributors. Their Visa section is huge and you can find it HERE.

Thanks for reading.